Barfood

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 8:01:21 PM
Hard to beat a good old high eff gas engine.
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miiike572

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 8:01:09 PM
Article speaks for itself.
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murph777

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 8:01:04 PM
So, basically, you have to spend to save . . . Wait, isn't that an oxymoron?
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DozenSpeed

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 8:00:47 PM
TDI will do better than advertised, and the Prius often does less. Plus TDI looks best, drives best, and will blow any of the others into the weeds.
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032946

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 8:00:24 PM
My 2000 Saturn gets over 30 MPG average for a year. I spend less than $3,250 a year for gas. It is also paid for, another consideration if your car is payed for and gets decent gas mileage, it would take years to make up the difference of purchasing a new vehicle and the difference in the price of the gas you used. In the end it would cost you more.
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tjc09f

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:58:10 PM
interesting
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justme48

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:56:16 PM
Great info and a good article
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DrivingFool2

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:54:27 PM
Nomad228, so if you paid an average of $2 a gallon for gas, (you didn't) and got 30 mpg (you didn't)(http://autos.aol.com/cars-Chevrolet-S_10-1999-LS__4x4_Extended_Cab_6_ft._box/overview/) you would be correct. But the numbers don't add up unless you drove a limited amount during that time. I have a 2010 Prius (bought Aug. 2009) with 72,000 miles on it and have averaged Winter, Summer, Spring, and Fall, just under 50mpg during that time, manually computed on actual gas used. During the late Spring, Summer, and Fall, I average over 54mpg. I get over 500 miles a tank full (11.9 gallons) which normally last me 1 (one) week. Anyone that tries a hybrid and honestly compares cost, maintenance, mpg, etc; will buy another hybrid when the time comes
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toadNY

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:53:40 PM
It would be cheaper if it would Recharge it self!
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nimpy

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:53:31 PM
good information and interesting
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STLcardsfan

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:49:25 PM
I still love my Prius
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DaisysMomNC

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:48:22 PM
Interesting but I'll never buy another new car. Out of my price range. I love my Hyundai - 30 around town 34-36 highway.
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Gas4Gore

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:46:51 PM
Thank you for that info.
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Travel1st

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:42:32 PM
I hope things settle before I need a new vehicle.
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NorthglennBill

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:41:20 PM
All of these are out of my price bracket. But it I were inclined to buy I would probably go with the Toyota Prius.
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napermike79

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:40:27 PM
Living in a northern state frustrates me when I see MPG numbers. From late October through April the ONLY gas we can get is this oxygenated crap gas that cuts MPG by 20 - 30%. Not helping, it can also be around zero degrees for several weeks. When can we get regional MPG numbers?!?
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stevencr

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:38:23 PM
I'll stay with my mtorcycle.
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Akcamper

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:37:43 PM
SCREWED AGAIN!
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niceguytx

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:35:03 PM
Very informative.
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theschmuck

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:32:39 PM
'goneupagain' poses some good questions. The EV of 'OBUMMERS' choice have hit a snafoo for sure as they halted the production of the Volt for five weeks because of a very poor forcast they made, and the Leaf is not far behind, The cost of the cars may be a problem now, but what do you think the price of electricity will be if and when it ever works? You'll be paying through the nose because the companies supplying it will make a big profit through competition, count on it.
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96sc1

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:31:16 PM
The Volt costs almost $40K, uses more electricity than the Leaf, and uses premium gas for it's generator? Where's the upside? No wonder it isn't selling.
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stevekr

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:30:39 PM
Impeach Obama!
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tco9436

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:30:07 PM
who can afford a new car?
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adgam

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:28:39 PM
ok
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nhpest

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:27:36 PM
I've had many Jetta TDIs and the actual mileage has always been more like 38/45/42, my current model is 2010. In addition, maintenance of diesel engines is much lower, for example the recommended oil change is every 10K. These engines can easily double or triple the life of a gas engine. So when you factor everything in, the actual cost of ownership is much lower for the TDI than most other gas or electric cars, and they are much more fun to drive and actually have power.
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shea33

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:27:22 PM
got it
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Xpoint

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:23:52 PM
The Obama Volt sure looks bad!
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Voltus

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:18:49 PM
what about the Ford Fusion and Focus Hybrids?
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CLM06

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:17:21 PM
I'm not gonna buy any one of them
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mickealo

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:17:01 PM
while i tend to agreed these electic are not cheap in the long run but you have to look at all cost to realy know but they sure do not add up to me yet
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nomad228

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:11:07 PM
wow ! i don't know where they got their numbers, but(yes there is a but)my gas bill for the last 5 years is $5460 and i am driving a 1999 chevy s-10 4.3 litre v 6 4x4 extended cab.so this tells me the prius,cruze,jetta and volt are overpriced and use way more fuel than a 12 year old chevy mid size truck.and i only paid $8500.00 for my used truck with 67000 miles on it. :) this also tells me toyota,chevy,nissan and boltsdragin have lost their minds charging these prices. : )
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GoneUpAgain

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:08:48 PM
An awful lot of information is missing from this article. How much are repairs for each vehicle. What electric rate is being used? Too many missing pieces of info make this article extremely suspect! Don't make a decision based on such useless info. The "writer" should not be writing anything because little to no research has been done, or the article was written for a specific company. Imagine that?!
[Edited by: GoneUpAgain at 3/14/2012 7:11:30 PM EST]
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tom426

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:07:08 PM
All seem pretty good over the 5 year span.
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humancry

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:05:15 PM
I don't see anything here cheap at all.
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cbuck80

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:04:14 PM
where is the fords
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lyons_coop

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:03:42 PM
I have to agree, it does make the Prius look pretty good.
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carloco75

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:00:59 PM
:)
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carloco75

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:00:49 PM
I get way better results than what this articles says...
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no8c

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 7:00:29 PM
Thanks for posting this article!
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sjl08203

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:59:14 PM
They have to find a way to reduce the cost of electrics
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jessek

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:58:22 PM
Nice to see the comparison. The Prius looks like the best deal overall.
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preacherjohn

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:55:49 PM
What's the difference in cost w/our Diesel Dodge pickup 250. & my Ford F150 for over the long run?
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Car54BC08

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:53:37 PM
I'm surprised the Volt is so high and I would take the Prius over the Eco.
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Tjfish94

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:53:34 PM
Sounds like a regualr ol' gas drinkin car is the best option for now!
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cheap59

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:52:41 PM
And for comfort. The Ford Fusion or Lincoln MKZ!
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Taurus1

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:52:21 PM
No new cars for me.
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grammamNV

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:51:59 PM
ok, then
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jb107

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:50:08 PM
I'm going to drive the car I have into the ground. It should be good for at least another 100 thousand miles.
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fullauto

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:49:22 PM
go toyota
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barbs24

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:45:57 PM
Just bought a Prius, Yea!
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balljars

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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:44:43 PM
Looks like the plain old gas engine car is the best.
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